Its funny as I think about it, guys back then spent hundreds of dollars modifying their sleds to what these sleds were already doing right out of the crate back in the day eh Phil!? They were a pretty impressive number for a 440cc and still are like any other performance sled when set up properly. 80 plus mile an hour with crappy suspension and leaf spring skis was a pretty hairy ride. If you could ride one of these sleds for a day with the suspension they had, you were a man!! lol. Kawasaki built their engines for their own sleds, and John Deere at the time, and gave theirs a little hotter timing, piston, head, and slight porting change, to give the Invader a little competetive edge over the Liquifire, but by far the Liquifire was a better looking sled. Also Deere was more concirned about reliability when it came to sales to the general public and market share...Rob.