View Full Version : ZRT 800 AGAINST A 750 V-MAX 4?
WEATHERBY460
12-02-2007, 05:53 AM
Just curious how a zrt800 stacked up against a 750 v-max?
I never see any races with the zrt800, but would think its a faster sled?
Thanks
quadzillaracer
12-02-2007, 04:09 PM
Every sled is different and setup different as we all know. I'm sure there are many ZRT 800's that thumped on Vmax-4's and vise versa...
The Muscle Sled Shoot for SnoGoer Magazine in 1995 models resulted in drag race results as... 1st Place ZRT 800, 2nd Place Mach Z, 3rd Place Vmax-4 800, and 4th Place Polaris Storm 800.
I would say if you line up a well tuned Vmax-4 against a well tuned ZRT 800 you are still going to have your hands full in 660' or 1000'! Just my .02
luckyone
12-02-2007, 09:29 PM
the zrt will be faster to the scrap pile for sure!!yamaha is far superior! quality is the trade mark of yamaha.
YAMMIEGOD 3:16
12-03-2007, 12:07 AM
ANY SLED CAN BEAT ANY SLED. I REMEMBER BEATING VMAX,4,s WITH MY 77 SRX. ITS ALL IN THE TUNER. 3:16 (yammie tony)
Brakes
12-03-2007, 12:30 PM
On a clear lake of 1/4 mile last February i lined up with a 97 mach z 800, 2003 ZR 800 EFI and 96 T-cat 1000.The finishing order are as follows:
96 vmax4
97 machZ
96 T-Cat
03 ZR
opsled
12-03-2007, 07:42 PM
On a clear lake of 1/4 mile last February i lined up with a 97 mach z 800, 2003 ZR 800 EFI and 96 T-cat 1000.The finishing order are as follows:
96 vmax4
97 machZ
96 T-Cat
03 ZR
Yea but you must have been cheating. Everybody (that doesn't own one) knows those Vmax4's are dogs and can be beat by 600's.
opsled
So how did those DooCat boys like being beat by your dog?:smilies-9
vmax4rules
12-04-2007, 09:50 AM
Yea but you must have been cheating. Everybody (that doesn't own one) knows those Vmax4's are dogs and can be beat by 600's.
opsled
LOL, you know the saying (if I had a nickel.....)
Skinner
12-04-2007, 11:58 AM
Yea but you must have been cheating. Everybody (that doesn't own one) knows those Vmax4's are dogs and can be beat by 600's.
opsled
So how did those DooCat boys like being beat by your dog?:smilies-9
I was up there when all this shit went down. After Chris handed them their asses, he asked,,,,,,,,,,,,,who's next? Lots of tails went between the legs with no replys. The old max put the fear in those boyz on the ice and Pieman was prouder than a cock rooster
Brakes
12-04-2007, 12:25 PM
INDEED!!!!!
YAMMIEGOD 3:16
12-04-2007, 12:48 PM
WHAT YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT. VMAX 4,s COULD NOT PULL A SICK WHORE OUT OF BED!!!!!!!!!! LOL. 3:16 (yammie tony)
WEATHERBY460
12-06-2007, 07:05 AM
so a stock 750 v-max will get beat by a stock zrt800 with everrthing else equal?
quadzillaracer
12-06-2007, 10:26 AM
so a stock 750 v-max will get beat by a stock zrt800 with everrthing else equal?
Setup, setup, setup!!!!
What do you consider stock and equal? One Vmax-4 that is straight out of the crate untouched or one that is clutched for engagement and proper max rpm, suspension setup, ect? Both are still technically stock, however you know which one will thump the other!
Thats the problem with these topics. One smuck says that he once owned a Vmax-4 and sold it because it was a dog and his sons 1992 440Z would stomp it by 1320 feet in a 1000 ft race. However, he didn't tell you that if it needed oil added or a sparkplug changed that he had to take it to a dealer and then it sat next to the wood pile for the chipmunks and squirells to store nuts in for the next 9 months.
These sleds are still quite superior to most 2-stroke sleds in a drag or lake race setting. If you work hard on your "STOCK" Vmax-4 by tuning clutching, engagement, suspension, traction and gearing. You will most likely compete with most "stock but tuned" 2-stroke sleds in a lake race or drag setting.
Example, (Brakes) posted scenario, classic example. Also I remember back in 2001 or 2002...can't remember. As I posted before, I participated in the Weenie Roast 1000' speed runs around Cable, WI. I took my "stock" '94 Vmax-4 750, this sled was ISR legal stock. I ran the sled jetted for a 2:1 mix of 92 premiem and B-32 race fuel, airbox trays removed, float bowl vent lines to atmosphere, 192 ice picks, stock factory track, lowered suspension and finally taller geared, plus I spent about 12 hours blueprinting the chassis for trueness. This sled ran 109 mph in 1000'. There were a few fellow members from this sight that were upset because there big bore quad piped and ported Vmax-4's were running anywheres from 100-105 mph in 1000' and didn't believe that a stock 750 would run that fast, I had to be cheating! 1 month before that event, the sled ran its fastest 1000' run of 111 mph in 1000' at the Hayward, WI Winterfest Speed Run Championships.
Anyways, my point is setup, setup, setup. Keep thinking realistic and working on the basics for speed and acceleration and you'll have a great weapon, your dealing with one of the best 2-stroke snowmobiles built for speed and aceleration.
Setup, setup, setup!!!!
Amen!
Ike
YAMMIEGOD 3:16
12-06-2007, 10:38 AM
YOU GOT IT QUAD. 3:16 (yammie tony)
opsled
12-06-2007, 04:22 PM
10-4 quad!!!!!:super: :super:
I think the best thing about the Vmax4 is that most guys think they are a toothless dog, because it's always funny as hell to see the look on their face when the old hound bites em in the A$$!!
opsled
Chevy2
12-06-2007, 04:43 PM
Setup, setup, setup!!!!
What do you consider stock and equal? One Vmax-4 that is straight out of the crate untouched or one that is clutched for engagement and proper max rpm, suspension setup, ect? Both are still technically stock, however you know which one will thump the other!
Thats the problem with these topics. One smuck says that he once owned a Vmax-4 and sold it because it was a dog and his sons 1992 440Z would stomp it by 1320 feet in a 1000 ft race. However, he didn't tell you that if it needed oil added or a sparkplug changed that he had to take it to a dealer and then it sat next to the wood pile for the chipmunks and squirells to store nuts in for the next 9 months.
These sleds are still quite superior to most 2-stroke sleds in a drag or lake race setting. If you work hard on your "STOCK" Vmax-4 by tuning clutching, engagement, suspension, traction and gearing. You will most likely compete with most "stock but tuned" 2-stroke sleds in a lake race or drag setting.
Example, (Brakes) posted scenario, classic example. Also I remember back in 2001 or 2002...can't remember. As I posted before, I participated in the Weenie Roast 1000' speed runs around Cable, WI. I took my "stock" '94 Vmax-4 750, this sled was ISR legal stock. I ran the sled jetted for a 2:1 mix of 92 premiem and B-32 race fuel, airbox trays removed, float bowl vent lines to atmosphere, 192 ice picks, stock factory track, lowered suspension and finally taller geared, plus I spent about 12 hours blueprinting the chassis for trueness. This sled ran 109 mph in 1000'. There were a few fellow members from this sight that were upset because there big bore quad piped and ported Vmax-4's were running anywheres from 100-105 mph in 1000' and didn't believe that a stock 750 would run that fast, I had to be cheating! 1 month before that event, the sled ran its fastest 1000' run of 111 mph in 1000' at the Hayward, WI Winterfest Speed Run Championships.
Anyways, my point is setup, setup, setup. Keep thinking realistic and working on the basics for speed and acceleration and you'll have a great weapon, your dealing with one of the best 2-stroke snowmobiles built for speed and aceleration.
STOCK 750's had about 135-138hp, To push a heavy VMax4 111mph in 1000ft on ice will take about 190-200hp. I don't doubt that your sled went 111mph but I can guarantee it's not In STOCK form. Why is it that everybody's sled is STOCK?? Raised compression, Advanced timing, Lifted cylinders, bored carbs, IT'S ALL STOCK!!! LOL :frech32:
YAMMIEGOD 3:16
12-06-2007, 04:51 PM
MY 95 800 RAN 105.11 IN 1.4 MILE. AT THE 1995 AMSNOW SHOOTOUT. THIS WAS DONE IN THE MUD. THIS ALSO WAS DONE IN THE STOCK FIRST HEAT. SLED ACTUALLY WENT SLIGHTLY SLOWER IN DEALER PREP. THIS SLED ALSO DYNOED RESERCH AT 149.1. THAN WAS LEANED DOWN SLIGHTLY AND REDYNOED AT 151.3 IN DEALER HEAT. NOW TWO THINGS EITHER THE 800,s ARE 10 TIMES FASTER THAN THE 750 OR EVERYBODY CHEATS. 3:16 (yammie tony)
Skinner
12-06-2007, 05:19 PM
I know Quad personally and if he said it was stock, then it was stock. He also said he poured his soul into blueprinting the chassis,,,,,,huge performance advantage. Also ISR legal for "stock"
quadzillaracer
12-06-2007, 05:40 PM
STOCK 750's had about 135-138hp, To push a heavy VMax4 111mph in 1000ft on ice will take about 190-200hp. I don't doubt that your sled went 111mph but I can guarantee it's not In STOCK form. Why is it that everybody's sled is STOCK?? Raised compression, Advanced timing, Lifted cylinders, bored carbs, IT'S ALL STOCK!!! LOL :frech32:
Guessing you must be the guy with the quad piped Vmax-4 that only ran 105 mph in 1000'. Oh yeah you'll be wanting this back :frech32: , I dealt with you last year about this same thing after you called me out about my speed. Your h.p. to speed factors aren't 100% correct. CMSA which is ISR regulated has Improved stock F7's with 165-170 h.p. running 120-122 mph in 1000'. In addition a gentleman named Lon Sash (fellow CMSA racer) runs a Ski-Doo 2001 Mach Z 800 tripple in ISR " 800 multiple pipe" stock but "tuned" with 150 h.p. he held the record of 116.50 mph in 1000' until it was broke last year by a fellow Mach Z at 117 mph, each sled is tore down; weighed, bored/ stroked, reeds cages inspected, porting specs check and ect, ect, ect...its quite detailed. If you want to verify these speeds go to www.cmsaracing.com (http://www.cmsaracing.com) ! To create speed and acceleration one must eliminate friction between moving parts...blueprinting. Yes, a sled that has friction in the chassis will require much more h.p. to create speed and acceleration.
So, after this being said is my "proper setup" 111 mph that unrealistic from the same weight Mach Z's with 10 more h.p. running 117 mph in 1000'??? 6 mph difference is huge.
Chevy2
12-06-2007, 07:30 PM
No, Im the guy that went 107mph in 1000ft with quads with a TRAIL SLED with 6000 miles on it. Weren't you the guy that said quad pipes don't work?? Back to ya... :frech32: LOL Then again, What do I know about drag racing (drag cars)and building drag motors my whole life!
YAMMIEGOD 3:16
12-06-2007, 08:06 PM
HEY CHEVY 2 PLEASE POST YOUR CLUTCH SET-UP.
'' 1995 VMAX 4 800 WITH '' MY '' CLUTCH KIT '' . I LOVE TO TRY IT. AND ALSO WHAT YEAR DID THE VMAX 4 COME STOCK WITH QUADS. 3:16 (yammie tony)
opsled
12-06-2007, 08:38 PM
I'm with quad on this one. The 92 in my avitar went 128 in 660 on the dirt. It ran in 1000 heavy mod and was no where near stock but not a lightweight either. It also had over 200hp and I have no idea what it would have done in 1000 on ice but needing 200hp to push a stock bodied/weight Vmax 4 to 111 in 1000????? I don't think so.
Chev2, I see by your signature you are using "my" clutch kit. I don't know who "my" is but maybe you should try "quads" clutch kit and get that old 4 of yours up to speed.:D :D
opsled
Chevy2
12-06-2007, 09:10 PM
MY 95 800 RAN 105.11 IN 1000 F.T. AT THE 1995 AMSNOW SHOOTOUT. THIS WAS DONE IN THE MUD. THIS ALSO WAS DONE IN THE STOCK FIRST HEAT. SLED ACTUALLY WENT SLIGHTLY SLOWER IN DEALER PREP. THIS SLED ALSO DYNOED RESERCH AT 149.1. THAN WAS LEANED DOWN SLIGHTLY AND REDYNOED AT 151.3 IN DEALER HEAT. NOW TWO THINGS EITHER THE 800,s ARE 10 TIMES FASTER THAN THE 750 OR EVERYBODY CHEATS. 3:16 (yammie tony)
Tony, I think your memory is going south.... The AMSnow shootout for "YOUR" sled was 1/4 mile (1320ft) not 1000ft. When did I say vmax4's came stock with quads? Quadzilla's and your sled should be in the snowmobile hall of fame as the fastest vmax4's of all time!
:party:
Chevy2
12-06-2007, 09:31 PM
Chev2, I see by your signature you are using "my" clutch kit. I don't know who "my" is but maybe you should try "quads" clutch kit and get that old 4 of yours up to speed.:D :D
opsled[/QUOTE]
No thanks, I have the clutching handled just fine!
Chevy2
12-06-2007, 09:37 PM
HEY CHEVY 2 PLEASE POST YOUR CLUTCH SET-UP.
'' 1995 VMAX 4 800 WITH '' MY '' CLUTCH KIT '' . I LOVE TO TRY IT. AND ALSO WHAT YEAR DID THE VMAX 4 COME STOCK WITH QUADS. 3:16 (yammie tony)
Last time I tried to tell you about my cnc machined Polaris clutch weights you said you didn't care about them. Why do you want to know now?
Big Bore 904
12-06-2007, 10:19 PM
Justin speaks the truth.
YAMMIEGOD 3:16
12-06-2007, 11:01 PM
HEY CHEVY 2. AGAIN PLEASE POST YOUR ENTIRE CLUTCH SET-UP. AND AS FARR AS QUADS, WHAT ARE THEY DEFFERENT FROM RAISED CLYS, BORED CARBS, ADVANCED TIMING, etc !!! AND I,LL DOUBLE CHECK WHAT DISTANCE MY VMAX 4 RAN, MIGHT BE 1/4 MILE. EITHER OR ITS IN THE HALL OF FAME. 3:16 (yammie tony)
Chevy2
12-07-2007, 06:03 AM
HEY CHEVY 2. AGAIN PLEASE POST YOUR ENTIRE CLUTCH SET-UP. AND AS FARR AS QUADS, WHAT ARE THEY DEFFERENT FROM RAISED CLYS, BORED CARBS, ADVANCED TIMING, etc !!! AND I,LL DOUBLE CHECK WHAT DISTANCE MY VMAX 4 RAN, MIGHT BE 1/4 MILE. EITHER OR ITS IN THE HALL OF FAME. 3:16 (yammie tony)
The difference is that I don't go around telling everybody my sled is stock if I moddified it. My definition of the work "STOCK" is how it came from the Yamaha factory, So yes you are right, My sled is not stock.
quadzillaracer
12-07-2007, 07:30 AM
One more time for ya on a couple things. One I never said that "quads" were junk, go back and read that "old" post. I said that you can't just bolt quads on with fat jetting, dead clutching and think that your going to set the performance world on fire, like many set them up as. Properly setup (theres that word again "setup") they are an awesome addition for the Vmax-4 nad yes sound wicked! I've owned 3 pairs of Hauck Howler 10,200 quads and 2 pairs of Trail Blaster PSI's and ModBlaster 800's.
Second yes my '94 750 was a ISR legitamate "stock" 750, no porting no raised cylinders, no offset timing keys. Key eliments for me were "Blueprinting" chassis for rolling resistance, dead lean jetting specs, taller gearing, and clutching, so I don't know where your going with this cylinder mod setup.
You still didn't answer my question...is it really that hard to believe for a setup 140 h.p. 750 Vmax-4 to run 109-111 mph in 1000' of shaved smooth ice when a properly tuned & setup 150 h.p. 800cc Mach Z runs 117 mph in 1000'? I'd say I was on top of my game that day with tuning and setup. I'm done pissing in the wind with guys like you....dee dee deee!
YAMMIEGOD 3:16
12-07-2007, 08:27 AM
Tony, I think your memory is going south.... The AMSnow shootout for "YOUR" sled was 1/4 mile (1320ft) not 1000ft. When did I say vmax4's came stock with quads? Quadzilla's and your sled should be in the snowmobile hall of fame as the fastest vmax4's of all time!
:party:
TOO BAD YOU DON,T LIVE CLOSE BY, YOU AND I CAN TRY OUT OUR CLUTCH SET-UPS AGAINST EACH OTHER. lol!!! ANYWAYS THANKS FOR CORECTION CHEVY 2. MY HALL OF FAME VMAX 4 RAN 105 OUT OF THE BOX IN THE 1/4 MILE AT THE 95 SHOOTOUT. AND YES THIS WAS COMPLETELY STOCK. I WILL ASK FOR THE THIRD TIME, PLEASE POST '' MY '' CLUTCH SET-UP. 3:16 (yammie tony)
quadzillaracer
12-07-2007, 10:23 AM
I have just one more comparison for speed to my 111 mph in 1000' by my old "stock" 750 Vmax-4.
There is a 2001 Yamaha SRX 700 owned by Sandy Reid that holds the ISR World Record for 1000' speed runs in the "Stock 700 Multi-pipe class. She has broke her own record on a few occassions, last year she ran 113.833 mph in 1000' with a full weight "stock" SRX 700. That sled is maybe 140-150 h.p. That is a far cry from being 190-200 h.p. to go over 110 mph.
Brakes
12-07-2007, 10:59 AM
I don't see how horse power makes this arguement comparable.You can have 300hp but if you can't hook it up or have a ton of drive line drag or inferer clutching it ain't going to do you a damn bit of good!
YAMMIEGOD 3:16
12-07-2007, 11:08 AM
QUAD, YOUR ARGUEMENT IS GONNA FALL ON DEAF EARS WITH THIS GUY BECAUSE HE THINKS THAT IF YOUR GOING THAT FAST, YOUR NOT STOCK. HE WAS AS SMART AS HE THINKS HE IS , HE WOULD REALIZE THAT EVERY '' STOCK '' SNOWMOBILE IS SET-UP FROM THE FACTORY TO RUN HUGE MPH JUST ON HOW THE FACTORY GEARS THEM AND JETTING THEY COME WITH. ITS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY. 3:16 (yammie tony)
quadzillaracer
12-07-2007, 11:17 AM
I don't see how horse power makes this arguement comparable.You can have 300hp but if you can't hook it up or have a ton of drive line drag or inferer clutching it ain't going to do you a damn bit of good!
That was my point! Its all about setup and tuning, making the most of your horsepower (GOING TO THE GROUND). My sled comparisons were to show that you don't need 200 h.p. to go over 110 mph. I used conventional methods of freeing up friction on driveline and suspension components to get the most of my 140 h.p. to the ground, plus in all the arguements I never seen where it was asked what "gearing" combo I used to achieve the speeds...thats also a major factor!
EDIT!!! To close this topic up for me, if you want to go fast in a straightline use conventional methods of getting all the h.p. to the ground, so then when you add power adders such as quad pipes then you will reap the full benefits in speed and h.p. On the flip side, if you just like trail riding with your quad pipes and don't care about the rest...great thats your choice. But don't call a guy a BS'er for spending massive hours tuning his "stock" sled to the max limits and running great speeds for a stocker, when you haven't gone thru the same efforts and pissed because the stocker is faster...must be a cheater, no just a relentless tuner!
YAMMIEGOD 3:16
12-07-2007, 11:23 AM
YEA I JUST MENTIONED GEARING. TAKE OUT A GEAR RATIO FORMULA AND TELL ME WHAT A 1994 750 VMAX 4 IS GEARED FOR RIGHT FROM YAMAHA. I BET ALITTLE BETTER THAN 111 MPH. 3:16 (yammie tony)
jminor
12-07-2007, 11:41 AM
A couple of examples of some 1000' running I did just for a comparo
- 2002 srx with jetting, gearing, a little clutching, my trail sled- 107.9
- 95 max4, quad piped on hard packed snow, lowered, stock track shaved, trail stud, conditions 35 degrees, wet rain\snow (bad air)- 116.2
YAMMIEGOD 3:16
12-07-2007, 12:22 PM
I RAN 114.2 IN THE 1/4 MILE ON TAR WITH A 100 % STOCK 800 ho REV IN 72 DEGREES. THIS SLED STILL HAD N.Y. TRAIL PERMIT DECALS ON IT. MY POINT TO ALL THIS, WELL SET-UP '' STOCK '' SLEDS ARE VERY CAPABLE OF THIS MPH. 3:16 (yammie tony)
KING OF THE LAKE
12-07-2007, 12:39 PM
Boy are you guys slow. I ran 119.3 with a bone stock 1972 gp433 with pipes, porting, nitrous, and twin turbos in 800 feet. The only mod done to the sled was that I removed all the bogie wheel kits from the skid. What a handfull at those speeds with such a narrow light sled. L.O.L.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PS - I think he just wants to crank ya up boys. Ignore it would be my advice. yer better than he was and pride was hurt.
Skinner
12-07-2007, 12:47 PM
Boy are you guys slow. I ran 119.3 with a bone stock 1972 gp433 with pipes, porting, nitrous, and twin turbos in 800 feet. The only mod done to the sled was that I removed all the bogie wheel kits from the skid. What a handfull at those speeds with such a narrow light sled. L.O.L.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PS - I think he just wants to crank ya up boys. Ignore it would be my advice. yer better than he was and pride was hurt.
DAMN BRIAN,,,,,,,U FAST WIT DAT STOCKER
I like the boogie wheel trick, never thought of that
wonder if dat ill work in a 800?
quadzillaracer
12-07-2007, 12:57 PM
DAMN BRIAN,,,,,,,U FAST WIT DAT STOCKER
I like the boogie wheel trick, never thought of that
wonder if dat ill work in a 800?
He didn't tell you the rest of the story! Thats how fast it ran coming down the return lane thru 12" of snow being towed back to the pit area by a bone stock '92 Jag 440!
KING OF THE LAKE
12-07-2007, 01:00 PM
I know! Shooting for 122 this winter if conditions are right. I have been playing around with differant boost levels for the turbos and redoing gear ratios. We will have to see. l.o.l. The funny part is nobody thinks i'm cheating yet.
KING OF THE LAKE
12-07-2007, 01:01 PM
Comon
jminor
12-07-2007, 01:04 PM
I RAN 114.2 IN THE 1/4 MILE ON TAR WITH A 100 % STOCK 800 ho REV IN 72 DEGREES. THIS SLED STILL HAD N.Y. TRAIL PERMIT DECALS ON IT. MY POINT TO ALL THIS, WELL SET-UP '' STOCK '' SLEDS ARE VERY CAPABLE OF THIS MPH. 3:16 (yammie tony)
sounds right seeing as how they say you add 10mph to your speed running the tar, Why??...LESS ROLLING RESISTANCE...HMMMMM......
Tony what time is good to give you a shout?
KING OF THE LAKE
12-07-2007, 01:05 PM
That was really a 440 - He told me it was a 340 . Shit!!!!!!
Skinner
12-07-2007, 01:06 PM
sounds right seeing as how they say you add 10mph to your speed running the tar, Why??...LESS ROLLING RESISTANCE...HMMMMM......
Tony what time is good to give you a shout?
Shipping the next installment of peaceburgers?
quadzillaracer
12-07-2007, 01:08 PM
Then you won't be happy to know it was a modified "lightweight" 440, guy took a 2 pound shit before getting on it....totally cheating....bastard!
EDIT!!! Better add one or two of these in! :fart: :Flush:
Skinner
12-07-2007, 01:11 PM
Then you won't be happy to know it was a modified "lightweight" 440, guy took a 2 pound shit before getting on it....totally cheating....bastard!
Musta ate some of Joshs burgers,,,huh?
YAMMIEGOD 3:16
12-07-2007, 01:12 PM
JOSH, WE HAVE A WINNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU. CALL ME ANYTIME BEFORE 2:00. I DID GET YOUR MESSAGE LATE LAST NIGHT. 3:16 (yammie tony)
quadzillaracer
12-07-2007, 01:13 PM
That taste like a Sponge Bob "Crabby Patty"???
KING OF THE LAKE
12-07-2007, 01:13 PM
Totally - Was told he only pissed before getting on to tow me back. I would have driven it back but I melted the single involute driver.
jminor
12-07-2007, 01:14 PM
sent out that stuff for pieman today, minus those weights, looks like they arent what was required.
Skinner
12-07-2007, 01:21 PM
sent out that stuff for pieman today, minus those weights, looks like they arent what was required.
Hard to say without testing. Like Tony said, the later years had more hp. I'm thinking 150 - 160 hp for this little guy. May need the heavier weight. Let me know what you want for them and I'll send ya some skins. Would'nt hurt to have them on the shelf
Thanks Josh
YAMMIEGOD 3:16
12-07-2007, 01:42 PM
BRIAN, YOU DEAD RIGHT HIS PRIDE WAS HURT. AND ACTUALLY I WAS WRONG TO SAY 107 IN 1000 F.T. WAS AWFUL. I ACTUALLY RECANTED TO HIM THAT I THOUGHT THAT WAS DESENT, BUT I THINK HE TOLD ME HE WANTED TO GET IN MY FACE. OH WELL !!! 3:16 (yammie tony)
jminor
12-07-2007, 01:58 PM
Hard to say without testing. Like Tony said, the later years had more hp. I'm thinking 150 - 160 hp for this little guy. May need the heavier weight. Let me know what you want for them and I'll send ya some skins. Would'nt hurt to have them on the shelf
Thanks Josh
Dave if they are the exact same weight with just different rivots I want to keep them but if they are a different profile I would consider selling them to you only if you are going to use them, I dont mind having them on my own shelf, was just going to help you out. Let me know what you think.
Silver Talon
12-07-2007, 03:44 PM
The year: 1993
Place: Newport lake ice runs
Sled: FACTORY STOCK 1992 vmax4 with 144 studs. (sorry if studs disqualify for factory, thats what my sled ran then)
Distance: 1320ft
Alt: ~800 above sea level
Speed: 110.2xx
Odometer: ~2500 miles
Year: 2001
Place: Newport lake ice runs
Sled: Same with just the recalled cluch stuff that yamaha had put out, i belive it was to update to the 800 specs, but you other guys know what i mean.
Distance: 1320ft
Alt: Same
Speed: ~107.+ (dont have the ticket for that one)
Odometer:~12,000
Changes since first run: Few belts, some jetting changes as it was running a little lean when we bought it in 93. A new track with another 144 studs, bought a factory track even. Some bogey wheel bearings, a shock or 2, Jackshaft bearing and a new muffler as one of the old ones cracked after a fairly large ditch jump went alittle arye.
Not to shabby considering Litteraly everything else on the sled is stock. From breaks to drivers, everything. Motor with 15k+ still hasnt been touched. These sleds were, and still are runners. If i remember right (dont quote me) I think our 96 vmax 600 ran 91 or so in the same distance with 96 studs.
Skinner
12-07-2007, 04:14 PM
HI-HO SILVER,,,,,GOOD POST
Josh, if you go back to my SRX WEIGHT post, Turk laid it out pretty clear. I think for tuning measures a guy should have all three sets so ya best hang on to them. Thanks for the nice offer
Apsley Max
12-08-2007, 01:44 PM
Should all this be in the bullshit forum???
yamaha kidd
12-26-2008, 07:52 PM
also keep in mind most of the newer sleds top out @ only about 110. all 4 of my max 4's bury the speedo @ 120 with more to go!!!
Lakeshadow
04-24-2009, 02:18 AM
Induction area, exhaust area, divided by Vmax-4.
NOW WHAT
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