Who wants Hydraulic brakes?

[Vmaxmike]

Not etched in stone her but a few have asked me if I'd make them a bracket.... The first one was trial and error but now with a prototype in hand I could make a jig and cut some of the time out of these.

So here it is, how many would want one? and would you want a bracket only or me to sorce the rest of the parts and assemble a kit to do the conversion?

I have a large sled "bone yard" near me the rest of the parts I could sorce used to help with the cost. The bracket is easier to price, it is time and materal, but the rest of the parts I'm not sure about right now I'd have to go talk to my guy and see what he will do for me. It's gonna help to know how many so i can lean on him about price :rotflmao:

Don't hold me to this but right now I'm thinking $100 for a bracket and maybe $200 for everything.

ask any questions and please PM me if you want to get on the list so i have a way to keep track of this OK

M

[tyler540]

i love the idea but the transmission in my car needs my money right now

[fastmax]

TTT pm sent

[RX1]

How many people are you thinking it would take before you would make a run of these? Thanks.

[Vmaxmike]

Two are signed up and I need another one for myself so I'm gearing up to make some now....

you wanted bracket only right? I'm gonna go get parts next week.

M

[RX1]

Yep, only need the bracket.....Did the stock brake line reach? Or did you have to get a longer one? I would assume these at least come with all the holes to bolt it down and hold the caliper, correct? What do you have for bolts holding the caliper on? Thanks.

[Vmaxmike]

Yep, only need the bracket.....Did the stock brake line reach? Or did you have to get a longer one? I would assume these at least come with all the holes to bolt it down and hold the caliper, correct? What do you have for bolts holding the caliper on? Thanks.

I have 2" bar risers and a Phazer brake line was long enough. The bracket will be ready to bolt on, you'll need to get hardware I used metric flange-lock bolts for bracket to chain case, and bolts and nuts for caliper to bracket.


M

[RX1]

Sounds good, any idea when you'll have some made up? Thanks.

[Lakeshadow]

I made an alloy spacer on the cheap! Application: cable brake Vmax-4. Just add a vented rotor. Too poor to afford anything.5933

[RX1]

Did you notice anything different by doing that?

[Lakeshadow]

Hell yea. Road riding before I bought Peaches. Always on the throttle and always on the binders road riding. Not near the brake fading as with the solid rotor! Yet it didn't bother me putting fourth a real grip with my left hand!!!! over and over again!!!!!!!

[Vmaxmike]

I got some parts today and the original price I quoted be be fine, I'll be starting on making brackets next week for those of you that are on the list already.

Here's a parts set less bracket.


Mike

[sxrsist]

pm me on this bracket, i have all the rest of the stuff already.

[Vmaxmike]

I ordered a piece of T6061 this AM I couldn't find any local..... soon as it's UPS brings it i'll get started.

M

[turch]

I have a 94 vmax 4 chaincase if I buy the bracket could you give me a list of the other parts I need to make this work and off of what sled they come from?
Thanks

[Vmaxmike]

The rotor is srx/viper late 90's to early 2000's , master cylinder and caliper off the same, Brake line is the sticky part as they vary across the years. 30" srx/viper is enough for std. height bars, if you want or have a riser you need to find a late 2000's phazer as it's 40"

[turch]

I'll take a bracket, pm me on shipping costs.
Thanks

[Vmaxmike]

I'll take a bracket, pm me on shipping costs.
Thanks

Welcome to the site Turch.... PM sent

[Vmaxmike]

If anyone else wants to get one please PM me and I'll send you an email addy.... Its easier for me to keep this all straight that way.

Thks

M

[Vmaxmike]

UPS delivered the bar stock and I got started this afternoon..... If all goes well and I can find a bottle of Argon I should get some if not all of these done this weekend.

[Vmaxmike]

I got a solid 8 hours in today...... Not sure my Argon bottle has enough gas to do all the welding tomorow, but I might be able to snag one from my neighbor of I run out.

Still on track to be shipping these early next week.

[Vmaxmike]

First off you guys should thank Pete Nydahl..... If he wasn't closed between the Holidays I would have been fixing my motor not doing your brakes!!! LOL

Things went well and I finished up. Have to pick up hardware tomorrow and they are ready to ship. Check your email guys I'll be intouch with totals with shipiping.

Braket only guys take a look at the hardware pic this is what your gonna need. The Tapered head bolt is 7/16 and the caliper will need to be drilled out to except this size.

[turch]

thanks mike and pete they look great can,t wait!

[Vmaxmike]

Dropped all the boxes at the Post office this AM. You should be getting your "gifts" soon :)


P.S. I've still got yours Lyle, as soon as you surface and let me know if you want the mounting bolts It will be on the way too

[Dennis]

Looking forward to try it out.

[Vmaxmike]

Here's the finished product.


This one is actually yours Lyle.... :)

[RX1]

Got mine and put it all together the other day, works great......Great workmanship as well, anybody that want's hydraulic brakes for their sled, get ahold of Mike.

[Roo]

I absolutely MUST MUST have one of these units!

I have all the stuff from a vmax 600 (caliper and whatnot appears the same) however, do I need the different rotor?

It appears that I could just flip over the 92 rotor to change the offset to allow for the caliper?

[RX1]

I think you could get by with the stocker, you wouldn't need to flip it, but the newer vented rotors are plentiful and cheap on ebay......

[Roo]

Are they the same diameter?

is the only difference the venting? I rode a couple of days ago, and I really forgot how terrible the braking was on my sled. It stops, but it sure has no mercy on that poor little neglected cable!

I dont remember it being that much effort before. I just had it all apart to change the track, and its pretty nasty. I had to wonder if just laying out a nice pattern and spending some time on the drill press would improve it.

but if theres a direct ebay replacement for peanuts, I'll go that way.

[Vmaxmike]

I just tracked packages you Canada boys should be getting them soon, let me know with a PM as USPS wont show me delivery reciepts.

Dennis yours will probably take a bit longer :(

[turch]

WAY TO GO MIKE! Thanks for the info.
Now thats taking care of your customers.

[Vmaxmike]

we're friends here you boys are not customers to me.... :) but my motor build sure does like your $$ THANKS :)

[Dennis]

It may take much longer yet before i recieve it.
I almost don't know how to say this.
There are no roads between towns uphere. only way is by sea or air.
We only have one airline company flying domestic. air Greenland. and All planes have been on the ground for 4 days now. Because of a strike.(lockout)
2 years ago, we went trough the same. cabin crew union and airgreenland couldn't agree on terms so they did the same. it lasted for a week. in the start of vakation time. total kaos. many peoples lost their tickets international. and no fresh vegetables or anything alse.

now the pilots are on strike????
those spoiled pilots have a start earnings at 110.000$ before all extras and a end earning at 300.000$ a year. plus a apartment if they need one, and a place in airgreenland own kindergarden, for the kids.
Air greenland wants more hours out of the pilots than they are flying now.(one week a year) they have 4 weeks less hours a year compared to union annual working hours for the average joe.
So the people of greenland are taken hostage by the pilots.
Air island pilots are denied flying extra fleights(they land 2 different places in greenland) only other link to the world. by their own pilot union. so no extra help.

[Vmaxmike]

It may take much longer yet before i recieve it.
I almost don't know how to say this.
There are no roads between towns uphere. only way is by sea or air.
We only have one airline company flying domestic. air Greenland. and All planes have been on the ground for 4 days now. Because of a strike.(lockout)
2 years ago, we went trough the same. cabin crew union and airgreenland couldn't agree on terms so they did the same. it lasted for a week. in the start of vakation time. total kaos. many peoples lost their tickets international. and no fresh vegetables or anything alse.

now the pilots are on strike????
those spoiled pilots have a start earnings at 110.000$ before all extras and a end earning at 300.000$ a year. plus a apartment if they need one, and a place in airgreenland own kindergarden, for the kids.
Air greenland wants more hours out of the pilots than they are flying now.(one week a year) they have 4 weeks less hours a year compared to union annual working hours for the average joe.
So the people of greenland are taken hostage by the pilots.
Air island pilots are denied flying extra fleights(they land 2 different places in greenland) only other link to the world. by their own pilot union. so no extra help.

wow that explaines the outragous rate it was to ship that to you.... sry!!! I have an idea maybe someone should shoot a couple of those over priced fly boys out of the sky, then maybe they will start to respect you guys better????

[turch]

WAY TO GO MIKE! Now thats taking care of your friends.lol

[Vmaxmike]

WAY TO GO MIKE! Now thats taking care of your friends.lol


Yea that sounds better, these little Bastards are actually quite a bit of work. I wouldn't do it for just anybody. :)

[Vmaxmike]

I can't track some of the packages that have crossed over the border.... has everyone got their stuff so I can delete my USPS tracking info. emails?


M

[Tyler]

I would be intrersted in the kit how long and how much?

[robtan88]

Hey Mike. You sure do nice work, and I,m really impressed with the follow up work you have been doing with the guys. Just wanted to commend you on that...Rob.

[Vmaxmike]

Hey Mike. You sure do nice work, and I,m really impressed with the follow up work you have been doing with the guys. Just wanted to commend you on that...Rob.

Thanks, My OCD shows in most things I do... LOL

This community has done quite a bit for me and I like to take care of those that have done the same for me :)

[Vmaxmike]

PM sent Tyler...

[turch]

I did not get it yet.

[Roo]

Got mine this morning Mike. It looks great!

Just got it all bolted up and hose routed etc... I need to bleed it now and I went to the cupboard but the cupboard was bare.

Waiting patiently for the parts supplier to deliver it now. I did find that the plug for my heated visor fits and mounts nicely in the hole for the park brake lever. Also the wire runs nicely through the cable guide too if you just slightly enlarge it.

Cant wait to ride it. Im thinking this will be the single best thing you can do to your Vmax 4.

[Vmaxmike]

I did not get it yet.

I'll call the post office and start tracking....

M

[Roo]

Mike..

thanks so much for making this setup for me. Its without a doubt the best addition to my V4 yet. I put 60 miles on yesterday and to be able to stop securely with one finger was much better than I even hoped for.

It was so simple to install (besides removing my original brake lever/ switch housing) and did I mention how great it is?

If anybody wants hydraulic brakes... do it! its worth it.

Thanks very much Mike.. and I mean it. Thanks for making a great contribution to my riding enjoyment.

[Vmaxmike]

Ahh you boys are gonna make me blush.... LOL

Nearly everything I own is FAST and along with that comes the need for good brakes, nobody wants to be the brown billed goose!!!

[Vmaxmike]

For those of you that don't already know the "brown Billed goose" can fly just as fast as the other geese, but just can't stop as fast.....:rotflmao::rotflmao:

[jst4fun]

AFLAC!!!!! :)

[Vmaxmike]

AFLAC!!!!! :)


LOL speaking of shitty companies..... they are right up there!!!

[sxrsist]

yes thanks alot mike, still in box but i think i will install today. Thanks for all your efforts.

[Boomer]

I just got my parts today. Great workmanship and prompt shipping. Thanks for coming up with a great addition for the VMax4. Much appreciated.

[LOVE MY MAX]

Are you still making these? i would be intrested.

[Vmaxmike]

Are you still making these? i would be intrested.


PM sent....

[Roo]

You wont be disappointed. Best addition yet for me.

[dealermotorcycles]

How about a Parkbrake?

[Bohica]

PM sent....

Is there a chance I can by one?

[Vmaxmike]

How about a Parkbrake?

What I did was to Compress the brake lever and then drill the housing through the lever to excect a pin. The pin hangs on a lanyard cable. It's not perfect but is functional and really not that hard to set.

I just did this today and will post pics and dimentions if you guy want to mod. the ones you already have. I had seen a lever that had a park clip like the original cable brake assy. at one point but can't seem to find it again. If I do this would be better and will also let you guys know.

M

[srxreid]

Mike I would also like a kit,brackets,bolts for my pro stock v4.please let me know how$ and time frame.thanks

[Vmaxmike]

Mike I would also like a kit,brackets,bolts for my pro stock v4.please let me know how$ and time frame.thanks

Pm sent....

[Vmaxmike]

Hey guys Instead of posting here please just PM me if you have questions or want to get on the list......

Thks

M

[Vmaxmike]

FYI for those of you that have contacted me but not placed orders yet....

I have parts enough for one more complete kit on hand and then it's gonna be bracket only, as I have bought up all the good parts I could find at my local bone yard.

This maybe subject to change as they cut more sleds up but right now the shelves are bare. They do actually have more stuff but all the rest are gonna need new brake pads and this will raise the prices.


M

[Vmaxmike]

Hey Phill, I promised you a pic awhile back here is what I came up with for parking brake. Not too sexy but it does work!! LOL

M

[jst4fun]

Wilwood makes a handle with a parking brake, but they are a little pricey....

http://www.startinglineproducts.com/catalog.cfm?pageID=detail&catalogID=3&catID=25&productID=68

[Vmaxmike]

Wilwood makes a handle with a parking brake, but they are a little pricey....

http://www.startinglineproducts.com/catalog.cfm?pageID=detail&catalogID=3&catID=25&productID=68

Yea but that creates another problem, high/low headlight switch is in our master assy... I'm looking for just a handle that will work but have had no luck yet.

[jst4fun]

Stock Hi/ lo switch removes with one screw and you can probably remount it...
or you can buy the one that comes with the handle.
Here is pics of it on my 94....

[LOVE MY MAX]

WOW Mike, looks awesome! I love seeing people who take pride in their work... Nice mill btw.. I'm Still waiting for my box of goodies, just got 20cm in the last 24 hrs... IT'S KILLIN ME LOLOL. Last tracking post was march 2nd and it has left the US enroute to Canada. I'll keep you posted. What about using a polaris brake handle? the have the e-brake lever on the bottom, but do not have the high/low headlight... Would the threads on the brake lines be the same?

[Vmaxmike]

One of these days I'm gonna spend some time at the bone yard, I'm really hoping to just find a lever that has the lock and will fit the Yamaha Master Cyl. & I like the way my memory switch mounts to it.

Good to know about the wilwood one, but I think i'm too cheap to spend that much on a master. LOL

[jst4fun]

Is your handle bolted in or pinned??
If it is bolted I can mail you my handle this spring so you can see if it will fit in your mount...
if it does I bet Wilwood sells replacement handles... jst a thot....

Bubba....

[Vmaxmike]

Is your handle bolted in or pinned??
If it is bolted I can mail you my handle this spring so you can see if it will fit in your mount...
if it does I bet Wilwood sells replacement handles... jst a thot....

Bubba....

Yea it just bolts up, You know anyone with a Yamaha SRX, SXR, Viper, Venture? they all use the master I have Maybe you could just see if it fits on your end instead of pissing around mailing it. I'll be REAL thankful If you did.

M

[RX1]

http://mountainperformance.com/yamaha_power_train.htm

Mountain performance has one about mid way down the page.

[LOVE MY MAX]

Hey MIKE!!! WICKED JOB on the brake adaptor!! Package just got here. Parts are in GREAT shape just as you said they would be. Gotta go, ive got some repairs to do and a group that just left on a ride to camp to catch up to! can you say NASCAR editioon carb and exhaust change!!!!

[Vmaxmike]

I put ALOT of love into making those stingers... take care of them and keep um outta the lake!!! LOL

[LOVE MY MAX]

This brake upgrade is a MUST.. Stock brake doesn't come CLOSE to the braking of this hydraulic set up of Mikes. KUDO'S to you VMAXMIKE!!

Come on... YOU MADE THE STINGER TO?? THEY SOUND FU*&^^^^^^KNG WICKED!!!!! I LOVE EM! SUCH A SWEET SOUND on the trail.....UNTIL YOU CRACK THE FUEL!!!!WWWHOOOOOOHOOOOO!!!! Can you send me any pics from during construction of them? and yes Mike, I'll Keem em out of the lake lol. I will be back on bear/walker lake for my b-day again this year.. lets hope it doesnt end like last time LMFAO!!! Stock can is 14.42 lbs, stinger 7.4 lbs Stock brake 6 lbs cant remember weight of the new disk.

[Vmaxmike]

I was kind of torn selling them, I kinda like the sound better then the quads I have now.... Here's a peek I'll send more to your email.

[03rx1jim]

I installed a Bender hydraulic brake kit on my 94 750 a few years ago. It made a great difference in the braking action. It only took 6 months for Bender to deliver the kit!!!! I like Mike's brake kit, looks like it might provide even more stopping power.

Mike, why can't the stock Vmax rotor be used with you brake kit?

[Vmaxmike]

The stock rotor could be used, but Hydraulics are going to cause a LOT more friction and heat. The Stock disc I doubt would be able to deal with the heat and cool properly causing fade, not to mention I simply don't like the riveted together piece of S&%t...




M

[03rx1jim]

Hi Mike, what disc model do you reccommend for your brake kit? I can get one from a 2000 SRX.

[Vmaxmike]

Hi Mike, what disc model do you reccommend for your brake kit? I can get one from a 2000 SRX.

In a perfect world the answer is "Viper" it's lighter.... But SRX will do well, and is alot easier to find, thus cheaper. There is info. about this in the thread on venting a rotor


M

[03rx1jim]

Thanks!! Semms like the optimum setup would be a vented Viper rotor.

[Vmaxmike]

It's the best i've found so far.....

M

[TC1200]

Just put mine on AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice work Mike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vmaxmike]

Update.... I was able to find parts for complete kits again, price went up a bit cuz I'll have to get new brake pads but have some on hand. I know most of us are done for the season but I have to make one for Turch again so I'll probably do a couple extras and put them in the drawer. As alway I'd prefer checks but will except paypal if you wnat to cover their fees. Current pricing is below.

M

Brakcet & hardware only $115 (plus shipping/paypay)

Complete Kit $235 (plus shipping/paypal)

[Tyler]

Hey Mike, I was wondering what break pads (part #/make/model) to buy? And break line as well there is a good size nick in mine so i would like to replace it and pads before i install the kit.

Thanks.

[Vmaxmike]

Sorry about the nick I must have missed that, I'll look to see if I have another brake line for ya. Is the nick in the line it self of just the protective cover? Pads are very common ones on a ton of Yamaha sleds just look them up for an '99 SRX, these pads last a really long time tho, there are alot of miles in the set I sent you. I wouldn't relpace them until they are gone they are a bit spendy ($30-$45 plus shipping)

If you order a Brake line I'd recomend getting one for a '07 and newer 4 stroke Phazer is longer and allows for bar riser and or better routing. Oem verder here in the states sells it for $26 or something.


PM or Email me and we can chat more.


M

[Tyler]

Thanks for the info. I think ill buy new ones anyway (just cux im like that lol) Kit seems very good just going to smooth out the bracket you made so the and polish it out I think i will look sick. Ill post some pic's when its all done but it will be a while as im going to go over the entire sled over the summer. Thanks again Mike.

[Vmaxmike]

We have an "extra" brake bracket stranded in Canada at Turch's place..... Any of you Canada guys that are looking for one contact me or him.



M

[bchita]

Hey Mike, will look at getting a kit from you near fall time. Will PM closer to September. Give you time to find the parts. I can take the one from Turch around then as well so you would not have to send another one to help you out.

Complete Kit $235 (plus shipping/paypal)

[Vmaxmike]

I have parts enough for two on hand right now. (one kind of spoken for) and will put ur name on the other one. Turch has bracket only so I'd have to ship to you any way. Get ahold of me when the time is right.


How goes things with the motor? have you got everything you need?

[turch]

bchita only lives 2hr from me so it would be easy to get it to him. and I might polish the bracket for him.
Let me know?

[turch]

Hey bchita worked on it all day, hope you like it, ready for shipping.

[bchita]

Hey Turch;

Thanks for doing this on your own time, truly went above and beyond.

Have a Great Summer !
Brian

[Vmaxmike]

Ur a good man Glenn.... :)


M

[Carllaponte]

i have a 93 and I'm interested in buying the assemble a kit if you ended up doing this....

[speedmax4]

Callaponte, you might want to send Vmaxmike a PM. I think he's been pretty busy and not been on the site for a week or so. I have one of his brake setups on my sled and it works awsome..............Tom

[Vmaxmike]

Callaponte, you might want to send Vmaxmike a PM. I think he's been pretty busy and not been on the site for a week or so. I have one of his brake setups on my sled and it works awsome..............Tom



Should I be concerned that ur keeping tabs on me Tom? LOL

[Vmaxmike]

i have a 93 and I'm interested in buying the assemble a kit if you ended up doing this....



Yes I'm still willing to make these but I'm up to my eyes dealing with a recent fire at my place and will need some time to get caught up and have to find more purchased parts for complete kits. If you interested I ask you to send a Pm and please be patient.

Next one to go out is your Chris, I PROMISE!!!

P.S. I'll make someone a great deal on a utility cart with "minor" smoke damage... LOL Just imagine a V4 powered golf cart!!!!

[turch]

WOW how bad was the fire bud, hope all is ok.

[Vmaxmike]

WOW how bad was the fire bud, hope all is ok.

Thanks Glenn, all is well that ends well. lots of pissing around with the insurance company but they bought me a new cart and the mess is all cleaned up.


Now if I just had snow.... LOL

[LOVE MY MAX]

Hope all is on its way back to normal Mike, Just the cart cought on fire? Please tell me nobody was hurt for starters, no damage to you M?

[turch]

Glad to hear all is well, insurance co can B a bich, and no snow anywhere.

We all miss your mug around hear, so when your done splitting your wood, time for a rip on the grass.....LOL
G