A few years ago, right before I got my Vmax4, I owned a 94 600 max. It had Bender twins on it. Fast as lightning, Till it seezed up going 70. Was jetted WAY to lean, But I didn't know about that stuff then. Literally GAVE the pipes away when some guy asked for them. He got the carbs too. Later, he gave me $60 for the pipes and carbs. Sometimes I wish I had not done that.